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I often wonder about the nature of

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reality about our relationship to the

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creative force that forged the particles

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of our stars and intertwine them with

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the molecules of our bodies who are we

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and where are we actually sitting within

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the architecture of our universe are we

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alone or is the answer simply stranger

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than we can think my name is jeremy

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Korbel I seek to weaponize your

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curiosity and if you're ready to suspend

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your own prejudice welcome to the world

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the explosive stuff is coming out I mean

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something's going on right now can you

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talk about that if everything goes as

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planned I think we are on the eve of

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something momentous that will change the

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on a tectonic level the UFO subject it's

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gonna reveal some things that have been

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going on for a long time government

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involvement in studying the phenomenon

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itself it's beyond just lights in the

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sky or radar returns they've been

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investigating and looking into

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associated phenomena things that occur

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in proximity with what we call UFOs

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things that you would think the

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government would find too far out but

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which are intrinsically related to what

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we see in the sky it's been funded by

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American taxpayers without their

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knowledge but I think it's got about to

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come spilling out if it does well any of

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the fingers be pointing toward its gonna

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it took two decades for this story to

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even begin to open and what's most

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interesting is how it relates to what's

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happening what is the link between the

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current releases by the Department of

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Defense using the New York Times to get

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out two videos now three what is the

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connection between not in the ranch

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so it's kind of a long and winding road

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with a lot of acronyms involved but

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here's the basics December 2017 the New

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York Times breaks a story about the

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existence of a secret UFO program in the

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Pentagon and while many of us have long

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suspected they had something going we

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didn't know exactly what it was well

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turns out it's something called a tip

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advanced aerospace threat identification

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program a guy named Lou Elizondo comes

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forward he says he was the point man for

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this program in addition we learned that

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there was a contract given out and

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involved bass Bigelow advanced aerospace

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within Bigelow Aerospace here in Las

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Vegas and that a study had been

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conducted twenty-two million dollars and

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that part of that study focused on

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skinwalker ranch a lot of people assume

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that a tip and bass were almost

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synonymous that the money for a tip and

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vas came from the same pot that it was

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the same program fact is it wasn't what

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was bass was involved with something

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else bass was under a much larger

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program the existence of which has not

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been made public yet but the house was

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not part of a tip a tip did communicate

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with bass there was exchange of

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information back and forth but it wasn't

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a tip that went to the ranch it was

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somebody else

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bass investigators went to the property

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investigated it interviewed witnesses

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collected evidence much like knids had

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done before National Institute for

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discovery science which while many

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people suspected it was a government

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program was not it was completely funded

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by Bob Bigelow he

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the property he hired the people to be

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there he conducted studies for more than

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a decade he owned the ranch for 20 years

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and sold it in 2016

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needs was private mass was public in

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that it was funded by taxpayer money and

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that came from a program whose name has

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not yet been made public the bass

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program to study the ranch we were told

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dia ran that program but you're telling

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me that there's a host program to a tip

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that actually was funded by that 22

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million I don't know if a tip is a dia

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program but I can tell you that bass was

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under dia dia put out the contract bass

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won the contract and with that contract

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and those federal dollars they studied

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the ranch among many other things so

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there's a host UFO program that was

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funded with taxpayer dollars to study

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the phenomenon is that were you telling

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me yeah

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well it's what's the name of that

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program I can't say do you know I can't

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say if I know it what it is but somehow

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you know that this is I think it is true

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yeah it is true but you think it is true

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it is it is true I'm just not in the

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position to say much more about it right

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now

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will we be learning more about this soon

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that's that's my intention and I think

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it's the intention to some other people

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who know about it what's the connection

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specifically between skinwalker ranch

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222 million and the videos that were

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released to the public showing unknown

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craft of unknown origin skinwalker ranch

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was an inspiration for this secret

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Pentagon study the 22 million dollars

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that we heard about from the New York

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Times personnel within the DIA had read

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the book had learned about what was

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going on there from the knids study

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became interested in the property went

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to the property some of these folks had

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their own experiences they went back to

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Washington they talked to Harry Reid and

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said hey this needs to be studied read

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consulted with some of his colleagues in

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the Senate got their approval to come up

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with the money for a budget the program

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a proposal was posted on fed biz ops

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Bigelow Robert Bigelow put together his

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own organization bid on it and got the

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contract and he that's where the 22

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million dollars went a lot of that money

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was spent at the ranch and so it sort of

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came full circle the people who were

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inspired by the book about the ranch got

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a program together that ended up going

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back and studying the ranch but they

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studied a lot more than that it was a

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much bigger program than just looking at

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the ranch it it looked at a much bigger

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spectrum of UFO related issues because

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of the events surrounding and at the

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ranch the Defense Intelligence Agency

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got interested partnered with private

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industry with Robert Bigelow Bigelow

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Aerospace they created an organization

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and they implemented a strategy to begin

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to understand what's going on at the

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ranch what we call paranormal or UFO

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that was actually done that was a

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government program it's a government

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program and you know we call it

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paranormal and people would assume

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that's something mysterious that will

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never understand that's beyond science

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it's just that we haven't figured out

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how to categorize it yet science is

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really great at figuring out the

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physical the material world we things

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that we can measure and quantify and see

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and feel we can figure that out things

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beyond that we're not so good at

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figuring out that's what this study at

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the ranch was trying to to deal with is

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to figure out what these phenomena are

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what generates them are they intelligent

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and if so where's this intelligence from

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that spills over a little bit with what

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a tip was doing which is it's it has

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these instances where things interact

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with our military over nuclear missile

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come in and they try to figure them out

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somehow you had knowledge that there was

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going to be a complete watershed moment

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where information was put out through

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the Department of Defense about UFOs as

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a journalist you had prior knowledge

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about that skinwalker ranch was the

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impetus for the bast study and the bast

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study not only looked at the ranch but a

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lot of broader topics related to what we

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would call paranormal and UFOs in

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addition same time there was a parallel

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program a tip which dealt specifically

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with military sightings and military

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encounters

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that was running along a parallel track

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not the same program but they exchanged

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information so there's a host UFO

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program and we're going to learn more

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about that hope so you also mentioned

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that people within the DIA came to the

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ranch out of interest to try to

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understand if there is some sort of

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capability or threat to what we call

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paranormal but whatever the events are

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at the ranch the people came there from

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the DIA I can't can't say I don't want

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to use that word I don't want to get so

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work but you can ask about dia be in

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there but you mentioned people from the

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DIA came to the ranch to look at the

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phenomenon of what was going on to try

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to understand if there is some sort of

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threat to what we call paranormal but

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whatever the events are at the ranch and

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then that they have their own

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experiences what do you mean by that

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dia personnel have been on the ranch and

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they did have their own experiences what

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we would call encounters with the

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paranormal and those experiences were

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dramatic enough that it convinced them

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this was worthy of further study it

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followed them stuck with them after they

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left the property I've heard the term

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used hitchhikers but they something

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attaches to them and follows him home so

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skinwalker ranch and the study of

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skinwalker ranch by Robert Bigelow and

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the partnership with the Defense

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Intelligence Agency they're looking at

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this because they feel it is important

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that there's something to be learned

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that there's something going on there

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that is a National Defense interest

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that's wild yeah like a tip is dealing

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with national security issues in a

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direct way what was going on with bass

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and the ranch is dealing with national

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security issues in a much broader sense

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maybe it's not a direct threat could be

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there's an intelligence operating there

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it's shown remarkable capabilities it

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seems that it whatever this intelligence

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is it can access our physical reality at

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will and there's not much we can do

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about it so that's of interest to

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national security people but it's a

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broader interest

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the scientific minds of how the universe

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works the nature of reality itself

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beings other intelligences are placed in

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the universe and the cosmos so there are

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a lot of big brain people who were happy

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to take on this this issue not because

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it was a national security issue but

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because they have inquisitive minds

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where their other intelligence agencies

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or other nations that were interested in

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what was going on at skinwalker ranch

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ever since knids was there there have

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been rumors that knids itself was an

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intelligence agency or working for an

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intelligence agency and that's just not

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true this was an entirely bob Bigelow's

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program but throughout the known recent

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history of the UN to base and there have

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been sightings of what we would call men

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and black types military types who were

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there checking out the ranch checking

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out the larger basin helicopter flights

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over the property it seemed like it had

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been of interest to someone for a long

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time in addition to people that we would

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think were our government I am told that

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there was interest from other

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governments after the book came out for

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the skinwalker it attracted that

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property attracted attention from a lot

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of different people not just UFO buffs

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what could other nations not you know I

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don't know I mean if you're looking at

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wormholes and portals time travel exotic

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technology that can get you from A to B

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in a big hurry maybe that's what they're

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trying to figure out same as sort of the

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larger study a tip was doing for the

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Pentagon trying to figure out how these

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machines worked how could they could

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accelerate as they did appear and

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disappear seemingly defy the laws of

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physics as we know them are the laws of

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aerodynamics that that's pretty good

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info to to figure out that's a good

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mystery to crack if you're in the

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national security establishment the

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locals that we've spoken with recently

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they are in distress they want to know

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if the illness is and the experiences of

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craft burning people's faces are they

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government or are they truly what we'd

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call paranormal people want answers is

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the government responsible for what's

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been happening to the community there

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well the phenomena in the UN 2 basin has

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been going on since before the United

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States government existed since before

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there was a US military the first humans

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there have reported the same kinds of

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things for you know far back as the

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1770s maybe further so the government

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didn't create that Bob Bigelow didn't

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create it has been going on for a long

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time could some of it have been created

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by the government sure could the

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government carve up the cow sure but you

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know the needs folks determined that it

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wasn't a hoax by the family they had a

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broadened circle of witnesses that was

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not just a couple of people it was

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thousands of people who had seen this

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phenomena over decades there is physical

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evidence that was evaluated we mentioned

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that in the book and the mids guys

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investigated a lot of it this is a

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physical thing that comes into our

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reality and leaves physical measurable

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traces and there's a lot of evidence of

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that it manifested itself in many ways

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we've been warned from going to the

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ranch and the surrounding area to hunt

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the phenomenon yet as a journalist

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you've been doing this for decades does

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that concern you at all

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it's starting to concern me yeah I mean

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I have a you know I try to prepare

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myself for these trips that we make and

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and I'm respectful of whatever it is

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that's there and I don't want to take

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anything home to any loved ones but most

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of the people who've gone there as many

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times as we have have taken something

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with them and I don't want that to

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happen so I'm not sure how many more

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times I'm going to be going there I

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think this might be either the last or

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one of the last times I go yeah I get a

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little concerned about it

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I'd like to see something you know

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because I've been there a lot of times

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and have never seen anything that I

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would categorize as paranormal or all

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that out of the ordinary I'd like to see

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something but I don't want to take it

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home with me

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as a journalist to break stories

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sometimes you have to keep secrets you

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know something you know something you're

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not really able to tell me there's a

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parent UFO program there's another

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program whether it's a parent of a tip I

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can't say but it's separate from a tip

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and that story has not been told yet and

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I think it will come out I think there

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are efforts to get that information out

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and when it does come out it's a lot of

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stuff so the government got wind of

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skinwalker ranch what was going on there

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and they did actively study the ranch to

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try to understand the phenomenon and try

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to understand if it was a threat the

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government created a pool of money gave

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it to a contractor who hired the best

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people in the world to study this stuff

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and one of their priorities was

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skinwalker ranch and they were there to

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try to figure out the mystery what is it

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where is it from how intelligent it is

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how does it do the things that it does

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what are its intentions I don't think

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they answered any of those questions but

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they learned a lot we know a lot more

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about it than we used to but if you were

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asking is the mystery cracked no and I'm

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not sure it ever will be and I don't

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know that there's anybody in the world

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that knows the ultimate answer to it Bob

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Bigelow international man of mystery

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billionaire aerospace mogul he sold the

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ranch

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more than most of us do most of the

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world knows but ultimately does he know

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what it is I you know I kind of have my

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doubts as he dropped subject he has not

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dropped the subject he's dropped funding

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the subject he's not spending any more

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money on it he's not funding any more

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studies he doesn't want to own the ranch

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anymore and he's got his own reasons for

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it he told me he will be interested in

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the subject until the day he dies you

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know it's different from having being

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actively involved and spending millions

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of dollars and just having a casual

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interest as he does clearly his

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curiosity was weaponized

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but was his curiosity satisfied tough to

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say I think I think he's had some

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questions answered that's my sense of it

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but the ultimate answer I don't think

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anybody knows how can you walk away from

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a mystery that's so vague well there are

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risks there are risks involved for those

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who pursue this stuff and Bob's done

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more than just about anybody in the

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world

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he has other priorities not only

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business priorities the space program

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but personal priorities family

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priorities and I think they take

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precedence at this stage of his life

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should people be grateful for what he

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did do I mean the people are gonna say

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he got in bed with the government they

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did a secret study the Defense

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Intelligence Agency Bob Bigelow bass I

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mean is that the attitude we should take

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or should we be grateful he did it at

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all we absolutely should be grateful he

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did it he had the best team in the world

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he had the the only experienced

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organization that had ever done anything

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like this on this kind of a scale and he

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put his own money into it he lost money

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on it this is not a moneymaker for him

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he lost money on it and it was doing a

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service for his country and for humanity

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and for science and we should thank him

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for it and he's got nothing but grief

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about it nothing but grief that he's

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he's this he's that the shadowy Bob

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Bigelow it's a bunch of [\h__\h]

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are you gonna walk off camera again no I

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there's a host programmer there's a

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bigger UFO program in Walker ranch was

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the linchpin to create what we're seeing

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today with the releases by the